{"id":2361,"date":"2016-09-30T07:52:18","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T13:52:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.crosseyedlife.com\/?p=2413"},"modified":"2016-09-30T07:52:18","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T13:52:18","slug":"which-one-is-it-yes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.crosseyedlife.com\/index.php\/2016\/09\/30\/which-one-is-it-yes\/","title":{"rendered":"Which one is it? Yes."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have an experience common to many of you.<br \/>\nRaising teenagers, specifically teenage boys, comes with a series of predictable issues and outcomes.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There will be emergency room visits.<\/p>\n<p>There will be \u201cshenanigans.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There will be drama.<\/p>\n<p>I guess you don&#8217;t even have to be a raiser of teenage boys to know this is true; you just need to be near them, those jokers can eat!<\/p>\n<p>Depending upon what cycle of the growth spurt there in, I cannot tell you which will be higher on any given month, my utility bill or my grocery bill.<\/p>\n<p>A few weeks ago my boys came in from some outdoor summer frolicking. Before they got into the kitchen, I heard from their brotherly conversation that they were &#8220;starving.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good timing.<\/p>\n<p>Mom had laid out a spread, and I had grilled up brats, dogs, and burgers. It was a teenager summer food dream come true.<\/p>\n<p>As they walked into the room, they both eyed the kitchen table, and I felt a little fear for my life recognizing that I stood between them and the bounty that lay before them.<\/p>\n<p>Mom told them to grab a plate and asked if they wanted a hamburger or a hotdog.<\/p>\n<p>In unison, they both said, &#8220;Yes!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I love that answer because it&#8217;s one of my favorite responses\u2026 Not either\/or, but both\/and.<\/p>\n<p>They didn&#8217;t want one; they wanted one of each.<\/p>\n<p>I think the church needs to get a good dose of both\/and.<\/p>\n<p>We argue about which is right or best and often it&#8217;s both.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s either traditional or contemporary\u2026 what if both were appropriate?<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s either seeker sensitive or hardline fundamental\u2026 what if both had a place?<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s either Baptist or nothing\u2026 well, let&#8217;s not get crazy.<\/p>\n<p>Last week I had the privilege of sitting under the teaching of Dr. Claude Thomas. The former pastor of First Baptist Euless, Euless, Tx and now president of C3 Global.<\/p>\n<p>He made an incredible statement that is probably the most important both\/and I have heard in a while.<\/p>\n<p>He said, &#8220;We (the church) need to grow spiritually, that&#8217;s true, but if we do not grow numerically we will eventually become irrelevant.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>True words, life-giving direction, and hard to reproduce.<\/p>\n<p>I think there has long been a belief that we don&#8217;t need to be effective as a church as long as we\u2019re faithful. That perspective has lead us down a road where we say that we may not be growing numerically, but we are growing spiritually.<\/p>\n<p>I wonder, has this become an excuse?&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Have we traded in the difficult work of the objective growth of the church numerically as we point to a subjective growth that we want to believe is there?<\/p>\n<p>The truth is, healthy things (spiritual growth) will naturally grow (numerical growth).&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>And, didn&#8217;t Jesus himself say you will know a tree by its fruit? Fruit is also called produce\u2026 because it is something that is produced.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not arguing for numerical growth over spiritual growth. And, I&#8217;m not asking for spiritual growth to be dominant over numerical growth.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, you may ask, \u201cAndy, which one do you want spiritual growth or numerical growth?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And my answer would be, &#8220;Yes!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The truly healthy church and the truly healthy believer is growing spiritually, and the evidence of that is a fruitfulness in which the believer reproduces, multiplies and adds to the Kingdom.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, numerical growth is evidence of spiritual growth. And spiritual growth is the predecessor to numerical growth.<\/p>\n<p>It is a both\/and.<\/p>\n<p>So step up to the table, the church is famished, and the world is in need. When you&#8217;re thinking about the direction of you, your leadership and your church, and that little voice inside your spirit asks which do I pursue\u2026 spiritual growth or numerical growth?<\/p>\n<p>The answer is difficult and easy\u2026 it&#8217;s a both\/and.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The answer is yes.&nbsp;<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br \/>\nOriginally published in the Baptist Digest, Oct 2016<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have an experience common to many of you. Raising teenagers, specifically teenage boys, comes with a series of predictable issues and outcomes.&nbsp; There will be emergency room visits. There will be \u201cshenanigans.\u201d There will be drama. 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